tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5373833978949742595.post265052136431690444..comments2023-09-22T10:50:05.462-04:00Comments on Bushido Road: Get to the Karate Already!Feliciahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09017194727231120284noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5373833978949742595.post-84290404541467868672013-12-03T15:05:10.327-05:002013-12-03T15:05:10.327-05:00Great minds think aloke, Sue :-)Great minds think aloke, Sue :-)Feliciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09017194727231120284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5373833978949742595.post-66162919268649800282013-12-02T11:58:46.349-05:002013-12-02T11:58:46.349-05:00I'm with you on this one Felicia. A warm up sh...I'm with you on this one Felicia. A warm up should be a warm up i.e 5 - 10 minutes to get the heart rate going, blood circulating and muscles stretched out. The warm up is not a supplementary fitness session. Kihon, kata, pad work and kumite done intensely will provide a fitness workout whilst doing karate. In fact some line work actually makes a good warm up because it warms up the muscles you'll actually be using when you start drill work. I think karate lessons should be about karate and supplementary training done elsewhere.Sue Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16008609198511182782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5373833978949742595.post-5310162244434861272013-11-27T14:37:36.552-05:002013-11-27T14:37:36.552-05:00I hear you both, but I see it like this: the marti...I hear you both, but I see it like this: the martial arts are complex DISCIPLINES that require training away from the formal class. My first dojo had only one class a week for the longest time. You cannot learn karate in two hours a week, so some ancillary training - kihon, kata, conditioning, etc - was absolutely necessary. I think that even if you are taking 4-5 classes a week, you still HAVE to train on your own somewhat. Like anything else, what you put into it is what you get out of it - so if you half-step in class or only go through that form you're learning on the days you are on the mat, your martial art will suck, quite frankly. That being said, I think it is up to each individual practioner to make sure s/he gets whatever they can out of their training. Even if no one else in the class is doing more than running from their car to their homes outside of class, that's on THEM, not everyone me, the student training next to them or even Sensei Me, really. I have no problem with a vigorous warm-up at all, but there comes a point when it becomes a waste of time if there is more time spent doing jumping jacks, burpees and pushups than there is doing karate. <br /><br />When I train, I don't think it is my sensei's responsibility to "get me in shape" - it's mine and mine alone. Sure, push me to my limit, but I don't see how 1000 pushups per class accomplishes that at all. 100 minutes of randori? Now we're talking!Feliciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09017194727231120284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5373833978949742595.post-75550350385349501632013-11-27T01:05:25.982-05:002013-11-27T01:05:25.982-05:00Felicia, I couldn't agree more with your senti...Felicia, I couldn't agree more with your sentiments about spending training time wisely. But, just to play devil's advocate, it is the job of the sensei to push people to further than they have gone, at times, to spur improvement. It may also be that not everyone is as studious as you when exercising outside the dojo. All that being said, any workout that takes longer than 20 minutes of class is probably doing more harm than good. How can you work excellent technique and control when your fine motor skills are shot with 45 minutes of calisthenics?Yamabushihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15004639963569899960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5373833978949742595.post-15715856078315647062013-11-25T10:07:35.311-05:002013-11-25T10:07:35.311-05:00I am somewhat of two minds on this. Years ago I ca...I am somewhat of two minds on this. Years ago I came from a Combat Hapkido dojang which focused heavily on techniques and only touched calisthenics enough to make sure we werent injured by all the joint manipulation. This lead to a higher degree of technique competence, but increasing waistlines over the years I was there. <br /><br />In my current Kyokushin karate dojo we are about 20% warm up and stretching and calisthenics and about 80% karate training. This is a pretty good split, but I don't feel as tired as I'd like to be at the end of some classes. (Guess I should count my blessings he doesn't run us ragged though!)Kyokushin Karatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852479578293851776noreply@blogger.com